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20 November 2006 @ 10:29 am
In the words of the esteemed Granny Weatherwax  
"I Aten't Dead"

I didn't fall asleep at the wheel on Thursday and die in a horrific (and improbable) car crash off the M8 involving an escaped reticulated python being beaten soundly by a small fluffy kitten. I've just been... away, mostly.

The good news - SPN rocked. Seriously, Crossroad Blues was a fantastic episode which is underscoring the meta-type thoughts I've been having lately about the season as a whole. And the promo for the next episode? Gnnh! (Again, spoilery speculation type thoughts that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere and which totally fit the thoughts I've been having about the show.) I should really put together these thoughts into a post at some point before too much longer..

The bad news. Torchwood can't do horror. Seriously, stick to Sci-Fi next time, please? The episode wasn't too bad I guess, although how much did it cry out for a character death? (I was thinking Ianto since it's the first time we've seen him outside of the confines of the dogsbody niche he's carved out for himself, but hey, what do I know about TV? Oh... that's right... *g*) But they really can't do horror.

The slightly odd news, amongst other tastes I was mostly a rock chick in my teens and early twenties. I mellowed out a lot over the last ten years and was more emo/indie/MotR lately. So why am I now listening to the Maiden and 'obtaining' the Alexisonfire CD? (And also peeved that I can't find the Enter Shikari track anywhere)? I blame television. (not that I want to blame anything, 'cause I have no problem with being a rock chick, but seriously, the soundtrack of SPN seeping into my head every week has got to be a big part of this, right?)

Kay, I'm off to write at least 5,000 words today. I have decreed it and it shall be so. </randomosity>




You are the Hanged Man


Self-sacrifice, Sacrifice, Devotion, Bound.


With the Hanged man there is often a sense of fatalism, waiting for something to happen. Or a fear of
loss from a situation, rather than gain.


The Hanged Man is perhaps the most fascinating card in the deck. It reflects the story of Odin who offered himself as a sacrifice in order to gain knowledge. Hanging from the world tree, wounded by a spear, given no bread or mead, he hung for nine days. On the last day, he saw on the ground runes that had fallen from the tree, understood their meaning, and, coming down, scooped them up for his own. All knowledge is to be found in these runes.


The Hanged Man, in similar fashion, is a card about suspension, not life or death. It signifies selflessness, sacrifice and prophecy. You make yourself vulnerable and in doing so, gain illumination. You see the world differently, with almost mystical insights.


What Tarot Card are You?
Take the Test to Find Out.

 
 
Current Mood: sillysilly (and not dead)
Current Music: Iron Maiden
 
 
 
acme54: SPN: riveting TVacme54 on November 20th, 2006 12:56 pm (UTC)
:: rolls eyes ::
yup. Didn't buy Gwen jumping into bed with Owen. One, he is no pretty and two she seemed awfully loyal to her lump of stupid. It's kinda Rose/Mickey redone.
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: spn//not watching porn - _taylerwhiskyinmind on November 20th, 2006 01:01 pm (UTC)
There's something seriously fugly about that Owen bloke, I think it's the too-wide mouth coupled with the too-small eyes. Just... *shudders*

I could have possibly bought it after the cyberwoman episode, with the whole morgue locker thing, at that point it would have been the 'thrown together'/'sleep with me tonight, 'cause I could be dead tomorrow' thing but so long afterwards? Nah. Rhys (I'm guessing they're spelling it the Welsh way) hasn't been shown as unreliable or boring really - and Gwen hasn't been shown as being bored with him - so to suddenly have her go to Owen? Too soon, not enough backstory, not enough story full stop.
acme54: messyacme54 on November 20th, 2006 01:20 pm (UTC)
Does seem unlikely.
You think they will make them suffer for it? Jack being angry or boyfriend punching?
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: tw//captain jack - martoufmartywhiskyinmind on November 20th, 2006 01:28 pm (UTC)
Jack's probably going to be spending more time with the hand in the jar (if y'know what I mean...), but yeah - I think there will be some fallout here. The season finale is going to end up with a 'united we stand, divided we fall' theme and it's probably going to result in Rhys being horribly killed (maybe by the Weevil?) because Jack and Owen have been too busy snarking at each other to spot some sign.

Oh, and Jack'll end up focusing the UST on Ianto.

(this is all speculation - I am allergic to spoilers for all the shows I watch...)
Lauradimlondeiel on November 20th, 2006 01:55 pm (UTC)
Oh, and Jack'll end up focusing the UST on Ianto.
So glad someone else is noticing that.

I too didn't get the Gwen/Owen thing, he just annoys the hell out of me (except in Ghost Machine where I actually thought he was OK). And that must have been quite some painkiller he gave Gwen, she was up and about in no time after getting shotgun pellets in her gut.
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: tw//captain jack - martoufmartywhiskyinmind on November 20th, 2006 05:50 pm (UTC)
Owen is the one character on TV right now who I would cheerfully see brought to a slow simmer in a large vat of acetic acid. (Not sulphuric or anything that would kill him quickly, just something that would sting like hell once he started blistering fromt he heat).

Does that make me kinda sick?

*g*

Jack/Ianto will surprise me if it doesn't become canon by the end of the season to be honest!
smhwpf on November 20th, 2006 11:52 pm (UTC)
It sort of almost reminds me of Buffy/Spike. "I'm so messed up by dealing with all the horror that my job involves that I'm going to jump the bones of the nearest evil person I can find". Except Buffy had gone through five seasons and a dragging out of heaven before she got to that point. Gwen's had six episodes.

It did have creepiness, the ep., though an incredibly hackneyed theme. The big reveal that they were actually simply humans was worth something but... yeah, get back to the Sci Fi is probably a good prescription.
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: tw//captain jack - martoufmartywhiskyinmind on November 21st, 2006 04:50 am (UTC)
I think the Spuffy factor may have been what the intention was - but like you say - there was five season's worth of build up to that in BtVS and here... just not enough backstory, not enough reasoning.

The creepiness. Hmm, it was actually mentioned vaguely by acme54 up above, but there's a Supernatural episode which has a similar storyline and has one of the characters saying "Demons I get, people are crazy". That episode, not good as it was, was creepy. Torchwood fell into the pattern they seem to have developed of showing too much of the MotW and showing it repeatedly. emeraldswan made the point that the people who watched the TW episode fall into two categories - those who thought the horror/creep factor worked tend not to have seen SPN and those (like me) who thought it really didn't tend to be SPN fans.

TW are good at SciFi, so long as they don't fall into the advertising trap of repeating the message three times at least.
smhwpf on November 21st, 2006 12:19 pm (UTC)
Ah, yes, it would suffer if there'd been a similar plot elsewhere... in my case, not a SPN watcher, so not so bad.

It is an unusual turn, for the central character to start losing her moral compass so early on - one wonders where they'll go with that.
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: death - mewhiskyinmind on November 21st, 2006 12:44 pm (UTC)
I'm actually not sure how many episodes the Torchwood season is running for - is it 12? If so, then this episode marked the halfway point which (in DW at least) would seem to be the turning point, or at least a defining point, in the character growth. Having Gwen lose her moral compass now can only lead to badness in the end and one wonders if the lessons learned in the pilot episode have been brushed aside. Susie and her quest for power, Owen and his disregard for others, the disengage from society by all of the pre-existing Torchwood 'staff' - Gwen's arrival has shaken them up but now it seems that since she is becoming more like them than they are her, the pattern will repeat.

I wonder, though, Jack is not involved with the rest of the group as much now - could that be where they're taking us? Gwen's impact on Jack has been enough that he can then transfer onto the rest of them inthe end?

Argh, deep TW thoughts... brain melty... *g*

(*sees you Dream icon and raises you a Death one*)
smhwpf on November 21st, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)
Mmmm, Death... *g*

Yeah, the character arcs could go some very interesting places - in some ways that might be some of the most interesting aspects of things, if they do things well. What would be bad is if they just let all these moral compass issues build up and then just forget about them and let them hang without consequence. But I'm hoping they won't do that - RTD surely wouldn't allow something as big as Gwen cheating on Rhys with Owen unless he had some real consequences in mind, one hopes.