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03 February 2007 @ 05:47 pm
Congratulations Johnny Wilkinson and the English Rugby Team  
England won 35-20. Mostly thanks to Johnny Wilkinson who made a come back after having been away from international rugby for a while. Of course, the scoreboard says 42-20, but since that try was not a try that means that the conversion should not have been a conversion either which takes seven points off. Scotland was the lesser team here, I say this whilst wearing a Scotland rugby, but we did not deserve to win. We capitalised on mistakes, but we never once had the advantage. England deserved to win. But that was not a try.

I've been a rugby fan pretty much all of my life but have been fanatical about it since 1990. I watched that contest with my dad. I was always a Daddy's Girl and my Dad watched the rugby so I did too. That year, Scotland won the Grand Slam in the Five Nations (they won every game that year), and since then I have been completely and utterly hooked. One of the biggest regrets of my life is that I never got to see an international match at Murrayfield with my Dad (especially a Calcutta Cup match (Scotland v. England in the 6 Nations*).

Today at about 11 am I got a call from my sister who said "What are you doing today?". I replied, "I'm going to hit Tescos for essentials and then head back to watch the Calcutta Cup match at 3.30".
"Mind some tag-alongs?"
"Nope, so long s'I'm back for the rugby."
So Sis and I took the three kids to the supermarket and my eldest nephew wanted to ride in my trolley. Halfway round the shop he said something about how quickly we were shopping that day and I said something like "That's because I want to get home to watch the rugby."
He wanted to come and watch the rugby with me.

Next year, the Calcutta Cup match is at Murrayfield. He'll be five years old by then, is that too young to go to a rugby match? I want to take him. I want to share this with him (although I'll have to clean up my language!), because it's something I see as being a family experience and since his daddy is a football fan (I detest footie) this is something I can do with him. But is five too young?

Okay, that got random! England deserved to win, but that was a shocking call!

*Italy joined the 5 Nations a few years ago, making it the 6 Nations
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smhwpf on February 3rd, 2007 06:38 pm (UTC)
Ah, shame, but at least Scotland got a few more points on the board at the end to make it look slightly more respectable!

Nah, five's not too young to watch a Rugby match! I gather Rugby crowds are much more decorous than football crowds. Children should be inducted into the appropriate sporting mythologies from a very young age, that way it's guaranteed their alliegances will never waver.

(I've majorly changed my religious beliefs twice, my political views have... not fundamentally changed but drifted this way and that over the course of my life - but my football alliegances - never! I've tried to stop supporting Arsenal because of them doing this deal to promote tourism in Israel in huge neon signs at the Emirates stadium - but, God help me, I can't! It's hardwired.)
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: saltire - mewhiskyinmind on February 3rd, 2007 07:27 pm (UTC)
I don't know if it's because it's my game, but I've always seen rugby as more tolerant than any other sport - especially football, so I would be less wary of taking Nephew #1 to a match than I would to a football game (and that has nothing to do with worries that he would ask me to explain the offside rule, 'cause I get that). Rugby has always seemed to me to be so much more inclusive than football ever has. I guess part of my concern would be whether I could handle a five year old at a rugby match when I've never been to a non-local match myself. (And by local, I mean the kind of match you can stumble aross when you're walking the dog through the local park...)

Maybe I should try to grab a ticket (or tickets) to a match at Murrayfield at some point this year by myself (or with fiends) so I'd be more ready for what it'd be like. I've been to gigs at Murrayfield, but never a match.

the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: simon//laugh - lit_glitterwhiskyinmind on February 3rd, 2007 07:32 pm (UTC)

Ha! Now there's a Freudian slip and a half!
omegaromegar on February 3rd, 2007 11:10 pm (UTC)
Haven't seen any part of the Match. So i won't comment on that.

However when it comes to sport, i must admit a certain preference to rugby over other Sports (including GAA*) I am not sure why, i think tis because i wandered into it myself, worked out most of the rules for myself and so on.

I don't have an actual local team, heck where i am living i don't know where the nearest rugby ground would be, Probably the Leinster ground. When i support a team it tends to be the Irish National team, well you have to don't yeah :)

Of course this year is a big year in the 5 Nations (it will only be six once Italy become an actual threat to the other teams) with the world cup and all that.

This brings me to my point. i worry for Ireland. For the longest time Ireland have being the "Underdogs" Even when they are better than there oppeents they have had an underdog mentatilty. When the chips are done they push that little harder to get teh extra few points. Now this year after the autmun where we did so well, there is this high expectation, and i can't help but worry that we are going to trip over our own feet!

Ah well. I can only hope we hold ourselves together, and don't get lost in outr own hype.

*The GAA, The Gaelic Athletics Associton, are the "Irish" sport. the association has two major Sports, Football (if you haven't seen it, it is like Austrlain Rules but with a round ball on a regular shaped pitch, and Hurley, where they give the players weapons!

The GAA is the proud owner of one of the top ten stadiums in europe, arguably top five, which through various deals and political manipulations, is Irish International Rugby's home ground this year. Check it out. see how the Irish taxpayers money has being spent.


Another name for the GAA is the Grab All Assocation. As they want your toy, without having to share there toys. very 3 year old of them!

Wow that was a long and rambling comment eh!
thedothatgirl: cityofthedothatgirl on February 4th, 2007 02:41 pm (UTC)
years old - a good place to start watching Rugby, not Football mind you.

And I didn't see the game. But I asked J and he says it was a bad call too.