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13 April 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Help me, Obi Wan Kenobi! You're my only hope!  

Well, actually you guys are.

I need a 'signature' song that sums up Faith immediately* post-Chosen. (and that isn't Living Dead Girl or Stupid Girl or anything with Amy Lee singing on it...(still love Amy, but the songs are bringing me out in hives right now))

Help?



*added that immediately for clarity sake - I mean Faith as she is standing with the rest of them surveying the crater-formerly-known-as-Sunnydale.
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JG: Geekjgracio on April 13th, 2007 11:56 am (UTC)
Not that I'd be able to help, but, hum... shouldn't we know what you think Faith is doing post-Chosen to suggest a song?

Because, Running from the cops in a bike Faith, avoiding her responsabilities in England Faith, back to jail Faith, married with Robin Faith, fell off the wagon Faith, etc. etc., should have different songs.
the girl who used to dance on fire and brimstone: faith//black&white - mewhiskyinmind on April 13th, 2007 11:58 am (UTC)
See, I mean immediately post-Chosen, with all the options still open to her.

basically an end of season seven version of Faith but who we know is going to survive.
mkcrl120 on April 13th, 2007 12:53 pm (UTC)
I think the issue with Faith standing there (as well as not knowing what the future holds) is that we don't even really know what her past holds.

And that goes even more so for the people she's now surrounding herself with (unless you have her returning to the Fang Gang - and even that's only a slightly less limited view of her past).

We don't know virtually anything about her childhood, how she was called, we never saw more than glimpses of her time in prison, the life she's basically led. This is made even more complicated by the tough-girl image she gives off. How much of it is real and how much is exaggerated as a protective shell? How much of what she said has multiple meanings - example: her dead mother hits harder than that... her mother used to hit her before she died; her mother got turned or something; completely untrue and it was a throw-away comment... who knows - was her mother a violent drunk/junkie/trailer-trash/etc; was she a good person that treated Faith well but got turned and Faith's memory of the only person she could rely on got trashed; did Faith even know her real mother...

Faith's an enigma, even to those seemingly close to her (which at this point might only be really Angel - especially from her point of view).

Although I'm crap at choosing songs for people and don't understand it (I've never got into that sort of fanfic); I've always thought different parts of different songs ring true for different aspects of people's lives.

So covering Faith's past could be dealt with in one song, her wanted/escaped con covered by another, any particular hopes and dreams she may have for the future covered by yet another.

So yeah, suggesting a song depends entirely on what you'd like to concentrate on.

Just realised this was probably no help whatsoever. grin

Mike
mkcrl120 on April 13th, 2007 01:33 pm (UTC)
I can imagine her identifying with certain bits of Bon Jovi's Blaze of Glory... but maybe that's just me.

(Specifically the whole mysterious past/stranger rolling into town parts; having to excel in a world she never asked to be part of (covering both the Slayer deal and whatever dodgy past most fanfic covers for her); and the fact that I think she's accept that she'd prefer to die fighting/attempting to redeem herself, than trying to achieve some sort of fairytale that I think she never thought was available to her.)

If I was asked this on a different day then I'd have probably had different answers.

Mike
tessarintessarin on April 13th, 2007 12:01 pm (UTC)
I've always thought that despite the tendancy for angsty songs or rock/metal she is actually fairly poppy.

Just thinking of her dance whilst looking after Oz, it sounded fairly upbeat and pop like. So maybe something completely against fandom type ? It might be her guilty secret.
mkcrl120 on April 13th, 2007 01:27 pm (UTC)
Ah, but is that just an examples of songs she likes and not ones that she actually identifies with. (Trying to escape from her life a little.)
tessarintessarin on April 13th, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
Probably true. Dance just seemed very boopy to me. Just thought Open your Eyes Snow Patrol may fit.
tessarintessarin on April 13th, 2007 12:17 pm (UTC)
From a UK perspective :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_in_British_music

Given she was in prison though not to sure how current she would be although I supposed she could have stocked up a bit whereever they immediately landed up after the big sinkhole. So dirty, or maybe Beautiful ?
Jacqui: buffy faith suggestionwily_one24 on April 13th, 2007 01:01 pm (UTC)
Random dropper by... if you don't mind me...

But I've always found two songs sum up Faith...

"On The Outside" - Sheryl Crow.

"Black and White" - Sarah McLachlan.

The Sarah one is fairly mainstream release and you can get it anywhere, the Sheryl one may be harder to find, it's on the Australian release of her self titled second album, let me know if you're interested.
omegaromegar on April 13th, 2007 03:40 pm (UTC)
Just cos it was on the radio as i read this post, how about "the living years"

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/mike+&+the+mechanics/the+living+years_20093565.html

The lyrics aren't great, but well at the same time it could work......
The Great and Terrible Oz: Faithludditerobot on April 13th, 2007 04:23 pm (UTC)
At that moment? U2, "Beautiful Day".

It struck me, thinking through this, that PJ Harvey's "Rid of Me" is a good S4/AtS1 song. And there's been a few what I think of as specific Elvis Costello reference ("This Year's Girl", etc) to think that delving into 70s and 80s Elvis albums might be useful.
Sentimental yet sardonic: Faith plus wallbooster17 on April 13th, 2007 07:51 pm (UTC)
I've always associated Faith a lot with Girls Aloud - No Good Advice myself.

Well everybodys talking like i'm crazy
Dangerous and lazy girl with no soul
But i've seen it all from where i'm hiding
Baby cause i'm sliding, out of control

Here I go, off the road crank the stereo
I flick my finger to the world below
Here I am, dirty hands, i don't give a damn
Shut your mouth because it might show
lmzjewel on April 13th, 2007 09:12 pm (UTC)
Hey Mara! (: There is a song that Rascal Flats has done recently the song is called "Stand" When I heard it I actually thought of all the scoobies at the end of S7.

These are the lyrics:
Rascal Flatts - Stand Lyrics

You feel like a candle in a hurricane
Just like a picture with a broken frame
Alone and helpless
Like you've lost your fight
But you'll be alright

[Chorus:]
Cause when push comes to shove
You taste what you're made of
You might bend, till you break
Cause its all you can take
On your knees you look up
Decide you've had enough
You get mad you get strong
Wipe your hands shake it off
Then you Stand, Then you stand
Life's like a novel
With the end ripped out
The edge of a canyon
With only one way down
Take what you're given before its gone
Start holding on, keep holding on

[Repeat Chorus]

Everytime you get up
And get back in the race
One more small piece of you
Starts to fall into place
Ooohhh

[Repeat Chorus]

Anyway, I hope you like it.

LMZ
tessarintessarin on April 13th, 2007 10:10 pm (UTC)
Now I am watching too much MTV :-)
How about Runaway Linkin Park Hybrid Theory.

Graffiti decorations
Underneath a sky of dust
A constant wave of tension
On top of broken trust
The lessons that you taught me
I learned were never true
Now I find myself in question
(They point the finger at me again)
Guilty by association
(You point the finger at me again)

Chorus:
I wanna run away
Never say good-bye
I wanna know the truth
Instead of wondering why
I wanna know the answers
No more lies
I wanna shut the door
And open up my mind

Paper bags and angry voices
Under a sky of dust
Another wave of tension
Has more than filled me up
All my talk of taking action
These words were never true
Now I find myself in question
(They point the finger at me again)
Guilty by association
(You point the finger at me again)

Chorus

I'm gonna run away and never say goodbye
(Gonna run away gonna run away gonna run away gonna run away)
I'm gonna run away and never wonder why
(Gonna run away gonna run away gonna run away gonna run away)
I'm gonna run away and open my mind
(Gonna run away / Mind gonna run away gonna run away / Mind mind gonna run away mind
Gonna run away / Mind gonna run away gonna run away gonna run away / Mind)

Chorus 2X

Or by the same band By myself
What do I do to ignore them behind me?
Do I follow my instincts blindly?
Do I hide my pride / From these bad dreams
And give in to sad thoughts that are maddening?
Do I / Sit here and try to stand it?
Or do I / Try to catch them red-handed?
Do I trust some and get fooled by phoniness,
Or do I trust nobody and live in loneliness?
Because I can't hold on / When I'm stretched so thin
I make the right moves but I'm lost within
I put on my daily facade but then
I just end up getting hurt again

By myself (Myself)
I ask why, but in my mind
I find I can't rely on myself
(Myself)
I ask why, but in my mind
I find I can't rely on myself


Chorus:
I can't hold on
(To what I want when I'm stretched so thin)
It's all too much to take in
I can't hold on
(To anything watching everything spin)
With thoughts of failure sinking in

If I / Turn my back I'm defenseless
And to go blindly seems senseless
If I hide my pride and let it all go on / Then they'll
Take from me till everything is gone
If I let them go I'll be outdone
But if I try to catch them I'll be outrun
If I'm killed by the questions like a cancer
Then I'll be buried in the silence of the answer


By myself (Myself)
I ask why, but in my mind
I find I can't rely on myself
(Myself)
I ask why, but in my mind
I find I can't rely on myself


Chorus

Repeat 2X
How do you think / I've lost so much
I'm so afraid / I'm out of touch
How do you expect / I will know what to do
When all I know / Is what you tell me to
Don't you know
I can't tell you how to make it go
No matter what I do, how hard I try
I can't seem to convince myself why
I'm stuck on the outside

Chorus 2X